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Faye
My friend and I want to go camping near/in the PA Grand Canyons (not the actual grand canyons). We don't have much money at all and don't want to stay in the State Parks which is 15-19 dollars a night. I would like somewhere for free or less than 10 bucks a night. We don't want to hike anywhere to camp. We just want to park and camp. Thanks in advance!
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If you're that strapped for funds, perhaps you should delay your trip. Just pitching a tent and camping out isn't smart. Any legitimate campground will charge you at least that much per night. Here's a link:http://www.allcampgrounds.com/blog/?tag=pennsylvania-grand-canyon
If you're that strapped for funds, perhaps you should delay your trip. Just pitching a tent and camping out isn't smart. Any legitimate campground will charge you at least that much per night. Here's a link:http://www.allcampgrounds.com/blog/?tag=pennsylvania-grand-canyon
How uncomfortable could tent camping be at the Grand Canyon's south rim be in mid November?
veropie13
Weather forecasts are clear and sunny to partly sunny ranging from 9-56 degrees Fahrenheit with no severe wind. I've never been camping in cold weather with a 5 and 3 year old. Been told that the GC is beautiful in fall. Any advice?
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Thanks Steve
This isn't really a GCNP question; it's more of a sleeping in a tent in really cold weather at 7000' question
If you're sleeping outside once you get below around 25 F you are dealing with a new world that has new rules and new strategies to deal with such as:
Peeing before you go to sleep b/c sleeping with a full bladder will drop your core temp
Sleeping with your boots inside of your sleeping bag
If you put bottles of warm water inside of a wool sock and then inside of your boots.you will have a pre-warmed sleeping bag and liquid water in the AM
Make 100% sure that the bottles don't leak
Sleeping with your mini -flashlight and digital camera inside of your sleeping bag b/c batteries die real quickly as the temp drops
Not using any kind of air mattress under you b/c the convective property of air will rob you of heat :Use closed cell foam instead
In cold weather I normally sleep in poly-pro long johns ,a wool beanie and wool fingerless gloves ..and then i graze on hi-calorie food during the night
I once came within 400' of literally dying of hypothermia while hiking the White Mountains of NH...so I take hypothermia seriously
I'm a big strong person with huge amounts of energy reserves ...and still I almost died within sight of safety
However if I was a 3 or a 5 year old child I of course wouldn't have anywhere near those kind of reserves and if I was the parent of those children I would be very aware of how easy it would be for their core temps to drop and how hard it would be to get those temps back up to where they need to be
Just so you know there is a clinic in GCNP But the nearest hospital is in Flagstaff which is at least an overland hour away
Speaking of Flag ,Peace Surplus will rent you zero degree bags.Since you're not going to be carrying them weight is not an issue so save the money and get a synthetic bag or two
http://www.peacesurplus.com/
If you place the two children in one bag and yourself in the other you might be able to do this safely
Oh yeah GCNP is really pretty in late Fall [even more so if it snows ] and the smell of burning the Ponderosa pine that the lodges burn just fills the air
Enjoy the Park
Thanks Steve
This isn't really a GCNP question; it's more of a sleeping in a tent in really cold weather at 7000' question
If you're sleeping outside once you get below around 25 F you are dealing with a new world that has new rules and new strategies to deal with such as:
Peeing before you go to sleep b/c sleeping with a full bladder will drop your core temp
Sleeping with your boots inside of your sleeping bag
If you put bottles of warm water inside of a wool sock and then inside of your boots.you will have a pre-warmed sleeping bag and liquid water in the AM
Make 100% sure that the bottles don't leak
Sleeping with your mini -flashlight and digital camera inside of your sleeping bag b/c batteries die real quickly as the temp drops
Not using any kind of air mattress under you b/c the convective property of air will rob you of heat :Use closed cell foam instead
In cold weather I normally sleep in poly-pro long johns ,a wool beanie and wool fingerless gloves ..and then i graze on hi-calorie food during the night
I once came within 400' of literally dying of hypothermia while hiking the White Mountains of NH...so I take hypothermia seriously
I'm a big strong person with huge amounts of energy reserves ...and still I almost died within sight of safety
However if I was a 3 or a 5 year old child I of course wouldn't have anywhere near those kind of reserves and if I was the parent of those children I would be very aware of how easy it would be for their core temps to drop and how hard it would be to get those temps back up to where they need to be
Just so you know there is a clinic in GCNP But the nearest hospital is in Flagstaff which is at least an overland hour away
Speaking of Flag ,Peace Surplus will rent you zero degree bags.Since you're not going to be carrying them weight is not an issue so save the money and get a synthetic bag or two
http://www.peacesurplus.com/
If you place the two children in one bag and yourself in the other you might be able to do this safely
Oh yeah GCNP is really pretty in late Fall [even more so if it snows ] and the smell of burning the Ponderosa pine that the lodges burn just fills the air
Enjoy the Park
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