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Q. i am an experienced camper. my husband has only been camping once and is picky about heat, rain, etc. we have a 12, 9, and 5 year old. we tent camp.
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I think that the best time of year is from now until the middle of October and from first week in April to the middle of May
Understand that the operative here is "On" which should not be confused with "In" Because given the ages of your children you will not be able to get the Backcountry Permit that NPS requires of all hikers who intend to spend any amount of nights camped "In " the Grand Canyon
Here's what goes into getting a Backcountry Permit http://www.nps.gov/grca/parknews/upload/backcountry_planner08.pdf
Since you will be spending nights on the Rim you really have only 2 choices inside the S.Rim side of the Park:
The uber civilized Mather CG and sort of remote and nice w /great views CS at Desert View
Here's all that you need to know about that
http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/cg-sr.htm
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Side note :
It is often incorrectly stated by many other posters that GCNP is hot in summer >While that statement is 100% true if one is referring to the Inner Canyon it is not true if one is referring to the Rims of the Canyon which will rarely get hotter than 90 F
The S.Rim is at 7000' in a Ponderosa Pine forest
The N. Rim is at 8000'+ in a Ponderosa Pine forest that transitions to Aspens
Enjoy your visit
I think that the best time of year is from now until the middle of October and from first week in April to the middle of May
Understand that the operative here is "On" which should not be confused with "In" Because given the ages of your children you will not be able to get the Backcountry Permit that NPS requires of all hikers who intend to spend any amount of nights camped "In " the Grand Canyon
Here's what goes into getting a Backcountry Permit http://www.nps.gov/grca/parknews/upload/backcountry_planner08.pdf
Since you will be spending nights on the Rim you really have only 2 choices inside the S.Rim side of the Park:
The uber civilized Mather CG and sort of remote and nice w /great views CS at Desert View
Here's all that you need to know about that
http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/cg-sr.htm
>>
Side note :
It is often incorrectly stated by many other posters that GCNP is hot in summer >While that statement is 100% true if one is referring to the Inner Canyon it is not true if one is referring to the Rims of the Canyon which will rarely get hotter than 90 F
The S.Rim is at 7000' in a Ponderosa Pine forest
The N. Rim is at 8000'+ in a Ponderosa Pine forest that transitions to Aspens
Enjoy your visit
How do I keep the inside of a tent warm at night?
Going camping in the desert. Day temperatures are in the 90's and night temperatures are in the 50's. My idea is to put a tarp over the tent when the sun sets to keep the heat in. Not using sleeping bags either, using Thermarest and blankets. Please do not respond with "use a sleeping bag" b/c this is not an option. We are flying to camp and will be renting a car, will not be taking sleeping bags as they take up too much room.
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Unfortunately putting a tarp over a tent in the desert won't help keep the warm dry desert air inside the tent.
My best answer for you is to carry some of those lightweight fleece blankets. I live in Las Vegas and we usually camp in the desert and on the banks of the Colorado River until the end of November on cots, without tents, (weather permitting) and with fleece or wool blankets, but we always bring one tent just in case.
In my canoe I carry the lightest weight bag I can find, the ten dollar nylon bags from Wal-mart work pretty well, and if it gets ruined it's ok. It is only cool at night but there can be some major cold periods.
Just remember it is the desert.
It can get COLD! FREAKING COLD! Below FREEZING!
Although the weather is usually nice during the day we don't get a lot of cloud cover to keep the warmth in at night.
If you are flying somewhere where you can rent a car, I would strongly suggest buying a couple of ten dollar bags when you get there, worst case you can use them as seat covers to take up no space. Then leave them with another camper, or with the car when you return it.
Oh... and be sure to bring a wool, nylon, or yarn hat. The ski type that will cover your ears, to keep your head warm at night. You will notice a HUGE difference when camping in the desert. Most of your body heat is lost from your head and abdomen.
And don't plan on using the heat from a propane lantern. That is the most dangerous way to keep your tent warm. The Carbon monoxide can kill you! (Been there, almost done that)
If you are serious about no sleeping bags, find the largest trash bag you can get your hands on and bundle up with your blankets inside it. Just don't stick it around or over your head.....
Better then FREEZING to DEATH!
Jamie
~ Angler 1 Sportfishing Adventures ~
~ The Las Vegas Canoe Club ~
~ Nevada Anglers ~
Unfortunately putting a tarp over a tent in the desert won't help keep the warm dry desert air inside the tent.
My best answer for you is to carry some of those lightweight fleece blankets. I live in Las Vegas and we usually camp in the desert and on the banks of the Colorado River until the end of November on cots, without tents, (weather permitting) and with fleece or wool blankets, but we always bring one tent just in case.
In my canoe I carry the lightest weight bag I can find, the ten dollar nylon bags from Wal-mart work pretty well, and if it gets ruined it's ok. It is only cool at night but there can be some major cold periods.
Just remember it is the desert.
It can get COLD! FREAKING COLD! Below FREEZING!
Although the weather is usually nice during the day we don't get a lot of cloud cover to keep the warmth in at night.
If you are flying somewhere where you can rent a car, I would strongly suggest buying a couple of ten dollar bags when you get there, worst case you can use them as seat covers to take up no space. Then leave them with another camper, or with the car when you return it.
Oh... and be sure to bring a wool, nylon, or yarn hat. The ski type that will cover your ears, to keep your head warm at night. You will notice a HUGE difference when camping in the desert. Most of your body heat is lost from your head and abdomen.
And don't plan on using the heat from a propane lantern. That is the most dangerous way to keep your tent warm. The Carbon monoxide can kill you! (Been there, almost done that)
If you are serious about no sleeping bags, find the largest trash bag you can get your hands on and bundle up with your blankets inside it. Just don't stick it around or over your head.....
Better then FREEZING to DEATH!
Jamie
~ Angler 1 Sportfishing Adventures ~
~ The Las Vegas Canoe Club ~
~ Nevada Anglers ~
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