veropie13
Weather forecasts are clear and sunny to partly sunny ranging from 9-56 degrees Fahrenheit with no severe wind. I've never been camping in cold weather with a 5 and 3 year old. Been told that the GC is beautiful in fall. Any advice?
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Thanks Steve
This isn't really a GCNP question; it's more of a sleeping in a tent in really cold weather at 7000' question
If you're sleeping outside once you get below around 25 F you are dealing with a new world that has new rules and new strategies to deal with such as:
Peeing before you go to sleep b/c sleeping with a full bladder will drop your core temp
Sleeping with your boots inside of your sleeping bag
If you put bottles of warm water inside of a wool sock and then inside of your boots.you will have a pre-warmed sleeping bag and liquid water in the AM
Make 100% sure that the bottles don't leak
Sleeping with your mini -flashlight and digital camera inside of your sleeping bag b/c batteries die real quickly as the temp drops
Not using any kind of air mattress under you b/c the convective property of air will rob you of heat :Use closed cell foam instead
In cold weather I normally sleep in poly-pro long johns ,a wool beanie and wool fingerless gloves ..and then i graze on hi-calorie food during the night
I once came within 400' of literally dying of hypothermia while hiking the White Mountains of NH...so I take hypothermia seriously
I'm a big strong person with huge amounts of energy reserves ...and still I almost died within sight of safety
However if I was a 3 or a 5 year old child I of course wouldn't have anywhere near those kind of reserves and if I was the parent of those children I would be very aware of how easy it would be for their core temps to drop and how hard it would be to get those temps back up to where they need to be
Just so you know there is a clinic in GCNP But the nearest hospital is in Flagstaff which is at least an overland hour away
Speaking of Flag ,Peace Surplus will rent you zero degree bags.Since you're not going to be carrying them weight is not an issue so save the money and get a synthetic bag or two
http://www.peacesurplus.com/
If you place the two children in one bag and yourself in the other you might be able to do this safely
Oh yeah GCNP is really pretty in late Fall [even more so if it snows ] and the smell of burning the Ponderosa pine that the lodges burn just fills the air
Enjoy the Park
Thanks Steve
This isn't really a GCNP question; it's more of a sleeping in a tent in really cold weather at 7000' question
If you're sleeping outside once you get below around 25 F you are dealing with a new world that has new rules and new strategies to deal with such as:
Peeing before you go to sleep b/c sleeping with a full bladder will drop your core temp
Sleeping with your boots inside of your sleeping bag
If you put bottles of warm water inside of a wool sock and then inside of your boots.you will have a pre-warmed sleeping bag and liquid water in the AM
Make 100% sure that the bottles don't leak
Sleeping with your mini -flashlight and digital camera inside of your sleeping bag b/c batteries die real quickly as the temp drops
Not using any kind of air mattress under you b/c the convective property of air will rob you of heat :Use closed cell foam instead
In cold weather I normally sleep in poly-pro long johns ,a wool beanie and wool fingerless gloves ..and then i graze on hi-calorie food during the night
I once came within 400' of literally dying of hypothermia while hiking the White Mountains of NH...so I take hypothermia seriously
I'm a big strong person with huge amounts of energy reserves ...and still I almost died within sight of safety
However if I was a 3 or a 5 year old child I of course wouldn't have anywhere near those kind of reserves and if I was the parent of those children I would be very aware of how easy it would be for their core temps to drop and how hard it would be to get those temps back up to where they need to be
Just so you know there is a clinic in GCNP But the nearest hospital is in Flagstaff which is at least an overland hour away
Speaking of Flag ,Peace Surplus will rent you zero degree bags.Since you're not going to be carrying them weight is not an issue so save the money and get a synthetic bag or two
http://www.peacesurplus.com/
If you place the two children in one bag and yourself in the other you might be able to do this safely
Oh yeah GCNP is really pretty in late Fall [even more so if it snows ] and the smell of burning the Ponderosa pine that the lodges burn just fills the air
Enjoy the Park
camping/tent and cabins ma. r.i.me.and nh.?
seanomc70
looking for a different place to camp this 4th of july. small cabin would be great but tenting is ok also.
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Ok sorry bout that, My favorite place to camp is Dolly Copp Campground in Gorham, NH. The write up on the site doesn't do it justice to tell you the truth. They should hire me to do their PR..lol. Anyway Dolly Copp site at 3000 feet althought you would never know it and has 176 secluded sites with many of them having great views. The site vary from wooded, river side to open field. You can have an RV or tent and hook ups are available for both. The field sites have AMAZING views of the Presidential Range and other towering mountains. If you interested in Hiking you can take the Daniel Webster trail to the top of Mt Madison which is over 5200 feet high! If you enjoy swimming you can jump in the rushing river adjacent to the campground! If have a fishing license head up the trail a quarter mile and toss a line in at the rangers pool for some nice trout! It costs about 15 bucks to camp per night and they do have onsite wood and ice for a charge. Dont buy at home cause it will def be cheaper at the campground...how unusual is that!!!! 15 min north of here is Gorham and you will find all the comforts of home there so if you get up and don't feel like cooking a meal then head on down to the local pancake house! This location is close to civilization (relatively speaking...lol) but very remote at the same time and will offer just about everything a true camper would need or want!
There is a map of the sites here and you can make reservations here too...not the best site but you can see the sites http://www.reserveamerica.com/jsp/commonpage.jsp?goto=/nrrs/nh/dolc/newindex.html
Ok sorry bout that, My favorite place to camp is Dolly Copp Campground in Gorham, NH. The write up on the site doesn't do it justice to tell you the truth. They should hire me to do their PR..lol. Anyway Dolly Copp site at 3000 feet althought you would never know it and has 176 secluded sites with many of them having great views. The site vary from wooded, river side to open field. You can have an RV or tent and hook ups are available for both. The field sites have AMAZING views of the Presidential Range and other towering mountains. If you interested in Hiking you can take the Daniel Webster trail to the top of Mt Madison which is over 5200 feet high! If you enjoy swimming you can jump in the rushing river adjacent to the campground! If have a fishing license head up the trail a quarter mile and toss a line in at the rangers pool for some nice trout! It costs about 15 bucks to camp per night and they do have onsite wood and ice for a charge. Dont buy at home cause it will def be cheaper at the campground...how unusual is that!!!! 15 min north of here is Gorham and you will find all the comforts of home there so if you get up and don't feel like cooking a meal then head on down to the local pancake house! This location is close to civilization (relatively speaking...lol) but very remote at the same time and will offer just about everything a true camper would need or want!
There is a map of the sites here and you can make reservations here too...not the best site but you can see the sites http://www.reserveamerica.com/jsp/commonpage.jsp?goto=/nrrs/nh/dolc/newindex.html
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