Is the Victoria city bylaw, used to prevent homeless camping in city parks, unconstitutional?

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Pagan Dan


A judge recently ruled so.


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"Hi" PD..*S* ........man talk about being between a rock and a hard place inasmuch as it's two different factions trying to live their lives.....namely those with homes and the homeless.

Here's the article btw and I first saw it on the news...

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/10/14/bc-victoria-homeless-bylaw.html

To quote the judge...."a sleeping bag or blanket isn't enough to protect people from the elements when sleeping outside in Victoria or anywhere on the West Coast."

The ruling also says that sleeping in a tent or under another structure is not a public safety issue but rather a basic human dignity.

I agree with the judge actually and yes I realize it opens a can of worms so to speak for the rest of civilized society ( in other municipalities ) like me with nicely mowed lawns and parks nearby but I still can't help but side with the unfortunates in this world !

In some cases , and I say some , their plight was not self inflicted as is the case with some others.

******Perhaps this will open avenues to some decent accomodation for those individuals and needed to be brought to the forefront , heck we look after everyone else in this great big world !******

Is it unconstititional for a Canadian city let alone a Capital City to callously allow the poor to suffer outside unprotected ...."yes" and furthur to take away their only home within their means ..."yes" , I certainly think so !

Thats just my opinion and I am sure you'll get more....an excellent question btw and worth a star !

Thanks for the chance of allowing me to "pontificate" ! lol..*S* (Michael C)

What is the best area to go camping in B.C?




Whitey


Looking to plan some summer camping trips and would like to go somewhere in BC. We are from Seattle and would like to see some of what BC has to offer.
No RV camping, it would be tent camping with 2 young children.
Open to suggestions! Mountains, Lakes, Rivers, etc..



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So many good places, it's hard to choose. Vancouver Island, if you have time. Miracle Beach, north of Courtenay, is one of the nicest campgrounds I've ever seen. Huge campsites, many very private. Shallow beach and trails right there, shallow sandy beach just north of there at Saratoga Beach. Mini golf and go-kart track nearby, grocery store too. Tofino area has great campgrounds and of course those wonderful beaches but you need to book ahead because they fill up fast in summer and they're on the expensive side for campgrounds. Crystal Cove is a really nice private campground with a small beach right there to walk on even at night. If you go to Tofino, you must stop at the Goats on the Roof store at Coombs along the way. Cool place, good food to buy to stock up on groceries or eat there, busy busy in summer, plan an hour or so for it. Englishman River is nice. Jingle Pot campground, close to Nanaimo, isn't a truly stunning place in many ways but is very convenient and if you're there at the right time, it's got the most incredible collection of lilies I've seen anywhere. The air is filled with the scent.

If you're coming to Vancouver Island and heading for the north end, you can take a ferry from Tsawwassen to Duke Point near Nanaimo which saves a few hours over going through Victoria though Victoria is a good place to visit. You can reserve for the ferry which is always wise in summer.

The Sunshine Coast, north of Vancouver, has Porpoise Bay which is nice. Alice Lake, up towards Whistler, is very popular. The Okanagan around Kelowna/Kamloops has some good places and you can come home again through Washington for some variety. Along Hwy 3 east from Hope, there's Manning Park with a few campgrounds and quite a few trails and there are a lot of campgrounds along Hwy 3, some of them off the highway a bit. Nice area, though, and a nice drive. If you go along that way, there's a pretty little spot at the municipal campground at Midway which is at least good for a lunch stop though it has little privacy because it's really just a long strip of lawn along the Kettle River. Quiet, though, and cheap. Get there early and get the last spot at the end for more privacy.

Highway 1 has some really gorgeous scenery, as does going north through Whistler to Kamloops.

Provincial campgrounds in BC are of much the same standard as state grounds in Washington. Hardly a real dog among them so choose one with confidence. BC Parks website will have info on amenities.




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