What makes a tent waterproof? and how to know if one is?

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tackelberr


I got tent and sprayed with waterproofing. Used it yesterday during the rain and had to put a tarp over it to keep the water from seeping through the top. So I'm looking for a new one thats really rain proof, any suggestions?


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A self-supporting tent (like a dome tent) with a full rainfly should keep you relatively dry. I have a Eureka Aspen, a Eureka Apex, and a Big Agnes Seedhouse 3. I NEVER get wet. The Aspen is my primary tent. It has seen hailstorms in the Rockies, torrential downpours in the Adirondacks, and wet sloppy snow in Vermont.

Taped seams are the best, but you can always get seam sealer at the camping supply store closest to you. If you are buying your camping gear at Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart, Sears, etc...expect to get something less than quality. Go to a REAL gear store and look at the tents. Eureka tents are the best tents if you have a tight budget. You can pick up an Apex at Campmor for about $89. A good MountainHardwear or Marmot tent will set you back a couple hundred bucks.

Also...these are all lighter backpacking style tents. If you are looking for something that you can set a cot and chairs in, then you are really going to pay big bucks for a good tent. A Kelty Trail Dome 6 person tent goes for about $350 (I think) and better tents are more expensive than that. You can pick up a 6 person cabin tent at K-Mart for $150...and you will get wet.

Make sure your tent is tight. That is what keeps the tent from dripping. Use a groundcloth. I put mine inside the tent, some people put it under the tent or they use a pre-fab footprint to keep the groundwater and condensation out.

Also...one drip doesn't mean the tent is leaking. Condensation can easily build on the inside of the tent. If the temperature and dew point are equal, count on water clinging to the ceiling. Chances are it will drip on you. All of my tents have a roof screen. Moisture travels out through the screen and condenses on the fly. When it runs down the fly, it lands OUTSIDE my tent. If my tent had a solid ceiling it would roll down the INSIDE of my tent and I would get wet.

Also...follow all of the other advise already posted. It's all pretty helpful.

What are some helpful things to bring for camping?




Jacinda


I am going to Yosemite to camp for the first time. I have the usuals like a tent, sleeping bag, insect spray, sunblock, flashlight - but what are some other things I should bring?
Oh yes, FOOD! ;)



Answer
These are my check lists i hope you can make use of it and see what you might find needed in your camping trip.
take care...

Gear Checklist: Mountaineering
Clothing
Outerwear
waterproof/breathable jacket
waterproof/breathable pants
insulated parka
fleece jacket or wool sweater
fleece pants
waterproof gaiters
synthetic hiking pants
synthetic shorts
Base Layer
midweight long john top
midweight long john bottoms
long sleeve T-shirt
synthetic briefs
synthetic sports bra
synthetic T-shirt
Accessories
wool or fleece hat
balaclava
midweight wool or fleece gloves
synthetic liner gloves
waterproof overmitts
Footwear
waterproof hiking boots
camp footwear
wool or synthetic socks (3)
liner socks (2)
Extras
sun hat
bandanna
single long whistle: stop
two whistles: resume hiking
three whistles: emergency Gear

Mountaineering Specific Gear
internal frame pack
mountaineering boots
hinged 12-point crampons
mountaineering axe (70cm)
climbing harness
climbing helmet
belay/rappel device
prussik slings or mechanical ascenders
sewn runners
daisy chains
avalanche probe
lightweight avalanche shovel
climbing ropes
protection hardware (nuts, screws, etc.)
ski goggles
glacier glasses
avalanche transceiver
Other Gear
Internal or external frame backpack
convertible or four-season tent
down sleeping bag (-30° to 20°F)
inflatable sleeping pad
closed-cell foam sleeping pad
trekking poles
white gas stove and fuel bottles
lighter and waterproof matches
cookset
eating utensils, bowl, and insulated mug
headlamp w/extra batteries and bulb
32 oz. water bottles (2)
water bottle parkas (2)
water treatment (filter, tablets, or drops)
pocket knife or multitool
compass
sunglasses
first-aid kit with personal medications
chemical heat packs
stuff sacks
assorted zipper-lock bags
bear-bagging rope (or canister)
insect repellent
mesh head net or suit
sunscreen (SPF 15+)
lip balm (SPF 15+)
toilet paper and trowel
pee bottle

Hiking-Mountaineering-Camping Checklist
Target Weight for fully-loaded pack ("every ounce counts!"):
<20 pounds: summer up to 3 overnights
<30 pounds: winter up to 3 overnights

Clothing
hiking boots
socks (2 pair; wool/synthetic, not cotton)
sock liners (personal preference)
long pants
shorts (or zip-off pants)
t-shirt (2; synthetic, not cotton)
underwear (2; synthetic, not cotton)
long sleeve shirt
camp shoes (e.g. sandals)
hat (wool for winter)
bandana
Hiking Gear
backpack
webbing/straps for attaching gear to backpack
trekking or ski poles
whistle
Dog Gear
water bottle
Food
towel/blanket for sleeping
brush

Camping Gear/shared
tent or tarp/ground cover
camp stove
fuel for camp stove (incl backup)
matches (waterproof)
cooking utensils (pot/pan)
water filter
Iodine tablets
watch with altimeter and/or GPS
clothes line
duct tape
multi-tool (e.g. Fisherman's)
camera
cell phone
2-way radios (only if expecting to split groups)
bear spray
Food/shared
dinner (freeze-dried, e.g. pasta, sauce)
breakfast (e.g. oatmeal)
coffee (instant) & creamer
Personal Items
sunglasses
medicines (cold, aspirin, etc)
sleeping aid (e.g. Xanax)
First aid (bandaids, polysporin, needle)
toiletries (tooth brush/paste)
moleskin
knife/scissors (e.g. small Swiss Army)
towel (small, quick-dry)
ear plugs/eye shield
sunscreen (SPS 15+)
Lip balm (SPS 15+)
bug repellant
toilet paper (with extra zip-lock bag)
wipes
map
compass
book
flashlight/headlamp w/ extra batteries
mirror (for signaling)
Camping Gear/individual
sleeping bag (down; light/compressible)
sleeping pad
eating utensils (bowl, mug, spoon)
garbage bag
emergency space blanket
camp chair
pillow case (use filled with clothes)
Food/individual
water bottles/bladder (bladder not when below freezing)
electrolyte replacement (Cytomax, Gatorade)
trail mix or power bars
beef jerky or dried steak nuggets
Lunch (e.g. sandwich)
Medical/shared
medical gloves
SAM splint
Benedryl (for allergic reactions)
Sawyer Extractor (for bites/stings)
Tincture of benzoin (skin disinfectant)
Bloodstopper (to control bleeding)
Roll tape
triangular bandages (cravats)
4"x4" sterile dressing
CPR shield
single long whistle: stop
two whistles: resume hiking
three whistles: emergency




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